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		<title>The Painful Logo and Business Card Design for chom chom advertising</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vinh Nguyen</dc:creator>
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Like every starting business, chom chom advertising needed a logo. The logo is the second most important visual element of branding after the business name.
From the start, I knew the design process would be painful. I wanted a great logo&#8230; I don&#8217;t have much money for it&#8230; I am not a graphic designer&#8230; I criticized [...]


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<p>Like every starting business, chom chom advertising needed a logo. The logo is the second most important visual element of branding after the business name.</p>
<p>From the start, I knew the design process would be painful. I wanted a great logo&#8230; I don&#8217;t have much money for it&#8230; I am not a graphic designer&#8230; I criticized <a title="Vietnamese Logos" href="http://www.chomchomadvertising.com/logo-reviews-vietnamese-tet-festival-2009/" onclick="">Vietnamese  logos</a>&#8230; I was noticed by <a title="David Airey" href="http://www.davidairey.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.davidairey.com');" target="_blank">David Airey</a> after posting a comment on his <a title="David Airey Comment on chom chom logo" href="http://www.davidairey.com/cv-tips-for-graphic-designers/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.davidairey.com');" target="_blank">post</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>Good luck with the chom chom logo design. I notice you’re in the process of designing one. I hope it goes well.</p></blockquote>
<h3>The utopian scenario: design the logo by renown graphic designers</h3>
<p>In the best of worlds, I would contract with <a title="David Airey" href="http://www.davidairey.com" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.davidairey.com');" target="_blank">David Airey</a> or <a title="Jacob Cass" href="http://justcreativedesign.com/about/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/justcreativedesign.com');" target="_blank">Jacob Cass</a>. David and Jacob are two graphic designers I truly admire. I would fill up a questionnaire, relax, and wait for the magic to happen. Very likely, I would be happy if not amazed by the result. Surely, the cost of their services is proportional to their talent. And the utopia ends.</p>
<h3>The cheap scenario: design the logo under $200&#8230; if not for $50</h3>
<p>If I wanted to be disappointed, that would be the way to go. Unfortunately, most small business entrepreneurs would adopt this solution because an OK logo at $200 is better than no logo at all.</p>
<p>Here are two posts about &#8220;penny&#8221; logo design services before you decide:</p>
<ul>
<li><a title="logo design experiment by Jim Walls" href="http://www.160over90.com/blog/2009/02/17/the-50-dollar-logo-experiment/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.160over90.com');">The 50 Dollar Logo Experiment</a> by Jim Walls, creative director at <a title="160over90 Agency" href="http://www.160over90.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.160over90.com');" target="_blank">160over90</a></li>
<li><a title="Logo Games" href="http://www.underconsideration.com/speakup/archives/005099.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.underconsideration.com');">Let the (Logo) Games Begin</a> by Doug Bartow, founding principal and the design director of <a title="id29 agency" href="http://www.id29.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.id29.com');" target="_blank">id29</a></li>
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<h3>The smart scenario: design the logo by unconventional means</h3>
<p>I love smart scenarios. Actually, I don&#8217;t have many alternatives, do I? Here are the phases I went through:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>1. Bargain</strong>. I made a deal with <a title="Havana Nguyen Graphic designer" href="http://havananguyen.wordpress.com/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/havananguyen.wordpress.com');" target="_blank">Havana Nguyen</a>, a young graphic designer I researched online. She would design the logo and I would help to market her graphic design services. I was presented with several concepts:</p>
<p style="text-align: center;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-458" title="chom chom draft 1" src="http://www.chomchomadvertising.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/chomchom_draft1.jpg" alt="chom chom draft 1" width="400" height="307" /><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-459" title="chom chom draft 2" src="http://www.chomchomadvertising.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/chomchom_draft2.jpg" alt="chom chom draft 2" width="400" height="400" /><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-460" title="chom chom draft 3" src="http://www.chomchomadvertising.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/chomchom_draft3.jpg" alt="chom chom draft 3" width="400" height="326" /></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I was pleased with the version above with the word &#8220;ad&#8221; in grey. However, I felt something was missing and questioned my choice with &#8220;ad&#8221; as a short for &#8220;advertising.&#8221;</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>2. Discovery</strong>. I forwarded the final draft to two seasoned graphic designers for their opinions.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a title="Kriszha Design" href="http://kriszha.com/about/" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/kriszha.com');" target="_blank">Kriszha</a>:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">From a design perspective there is a lack of visual appeal in your logo concept.I believe that the design of your logo should be a reflection of your business concern and make the right impact among your clientele.</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><a title="About Kien Nguyen" href="http://www.kienguyen.com/about.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/www.kienguyen.com');" target="_blank">Kien Nguyen</a>:</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I don&#8217;t think this is identity is working out for me. From a design perspective, there isn&#8217;t much visually that speaks about the mission of your company and what you guys do. Here are a few issues I would fix that might help make it more appealing:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">1. Name &#8211; As it is now, the name reads as &#8220;chom chom ad&#8221; and that can be confusing. Ad can be misinterpreted as advertisement, advertising, advertise, etc&#8230; I would stick with the full name of &#8220;Chom Chom Advertising&#8221; to make the name straightforward and more apparent. Yes the name might be a bit long, but again, that is a challenge a designer should work around, not avoid with cheap short cuts and abbreviations.<br />
2. Colors &#8211; is there a a reason why you chose orange? I think it should be more of a deep reddish color to reflect the fruit. This can be a lot more interesting and impactful I think.<br />
3. Kerning (spacing of letters) &#8211; it is somewhat awkward in certain areas, especially between the c and h. some might read it as a d.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I am more of a conceptual person when it comes to logo design. I believe it should be as abstract as possible but at the same time, it should reflect your company&#8217;s core values within it. There should be a rationale for everything you choose down to the color and the graphic elements. This is your brand, and right now, your logo doesn&#8217;t really tell me much about it.</p>
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<p style="padding-left: 30px;">From their valuable insights, I understood I was far from finalizing the logo.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>3. Deception</strong>. While chatting with a web developer from India, I inquired about their logo design services. I knew they were good at making websites. He quoted $50 for seven concepts. Since we&#8217;ve worked on various projects, he offered I would only pay if I liked the designs. Their portfolio shows elegant and sophisticated  logo designs so&#8230; why not a try? I forwarded my logo requirements, the previous designs, Kriszha &amp; Kien insights, and wish for the best. I might be lucky this time!</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-468" title="chom chom draft4" src="http://www.chomchomadvertising.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/chomchom_draft4.jpg" alt="chom chom draft4" width="400" height="286" /><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-469" title="chom chom draft 5" src="http://www.chomchomadvertising.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/chomchom_draft5.jpg" alt="chom chom draft 5" width="400" height="286" /></p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">Needless to say, I was very disappointed. The logos are nothing like the ones from their portfolio. The cheap scenario did not pay off. Oh! really?</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;"><strong>4. Self-fulfillment</strong>. Over 20 days in the design process and I was going nowhere. I felt an urge to take the matter on my own. For a whole Sunday, I sat down and worked on finalizing the logo:</p>
<p style="padding-left: 60px;">- <strong>the concept</strong>. The pictogram symbolizes the purpose of chom chom advertising&#8211; to match service/product offerings with the needs of the target audience. The disks relate to the shape of the <a title="Chom chom fruit" href="http://images.google.com/images?um=1&amp;hl=en&amp;safe=off&amp;client=firefox-a&amp;rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&amp;hs=sU5&amp;q=chom+chom&amp;btnG=Search+Images" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/images.google.com');" target="_blank">chom chom fruit</a> and the &#8220;o&#8221; in &#8220;chom chom.&#8221;<br />
- <strong>the typeface</strong>. I chose the very popular &#8216;Gotham rounded light.&#8217; It&#8217;s a safe choice given my little expertise in typography and graphic design.<br />
- <strong>the colors</strong>. Black, Grey, Pastel Red. Again, a safe play.</p>
<p style="padding-left: 30px;">I ran the finalized version through my wife (that&#8217;s how it works!). She was happy&#8230; It&#8217;s a winner!</p>
<h3>Business card design</h3>
<p><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-444" title="chom chom business card design" src="http://www.chomchomadvertising.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/chomchom_business_card_desi.jpg" alt="chom chom business card design" width="500" height="411" /></p>
<p>I ordered 500 business cards on 16pt dull cover paper with matte finish.</p>
<h3>Epilogue</h3>
<p>A logo design is an incredibly complex process. Like everything complex, you need expert people to achieve remarkable results. I know the chom chom logo can be way better in the hands of experts. It&#8217;s JUST good enough. And for now, &#8220;good enough&#8221; is acceptable as <a title="Good Enough Seth Godin" href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2005/07/before_you_spen.html" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview('/outbound/article/sethgodin.typepad.com');" target="_blank">Seth Godin</a> said:</p>
<blockquote><p>All a logo needs is to be GOOD ENOUGH (I know, I&#8217;m the guy who says good enough is a curse). Why is it okay to have a non-wonderful logo? Because the logo is just a placeholder. It gains value AFTER it hits the world, because people associate things with it.</p></blockquote>
<p>I would like to thank everyone who participated directly or indirectly to the design of chom chom logo. I can&#8217;t wait to see it up on the website and business cards.</p>
<p>What are your thoughts? Comments, insights, and feedbacks are welcome!</p>


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